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Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter
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(2017-10-12, 05:59 PM)Sailoog Wrote: Tocan it seems to me that you have published this post on the wrong thread, could be?

For shure not...

So, for me, its more important to have OP as a relyable, stable data-server. And all that other things (heating control, smart home, surveileance cam,...) is different on every boat and needs to be implemented individually. This is why i dont ask for Phillips-HUE iplementation or serial Planar Heating Control... [Image: biggrin.png]

See maybee i have not best developer skills and a sucking english to translate from German to english...

But i understand very well http://www.elbe.taxi/

My need maybee are others i try to have a open source base. And the switsches and other sections are quite empty still in documentation and for this reason i did play first with the Hue that i have at home and did implement Sonoff. There is absolute no reason here to act like in typical german forums with dirty irony. 

I do not expect any integration and all is just to share ideas... The fact is in Dresden with the company he will have for shure landline electricity and me in Danube Delta in 80 % not. And he will have not to travel 3000 km if something is with his electricity. So in fact the remote administration for me is absolute essential and is in front of any navigation or other things. My Grundel is also not a speed boat like his one and not for just to have fun and put out 100 liters of petrol per hour.

Anyways the way to go is not the question of a poll with 50 votes...

The way to go is yours in remembering of the interview of the canboat develoer in front of the free software Foundation.

What inspired you to create CANboat?
As I was building a new boat in 2008-2010 I wanted to have a single device that would show all the data available on board via a simple Web interface. I could join the NMEA and buy the NMEA 2000 standard (spending $3,000 USD or so) but then I couldn't actually release my program as free software. So I figured that the only way out was to reverse engineer the protocol from scratch. It took me about a week to write some code to interact with a CAN interface and only a few evenings before I had the first datagram done.
Soon I was able to have my dream of a tablet-friendly, HTML5(ish) page, in 2010. It took many evenings though over the last 6 years to add more and more N2K datagrams. Luckily, after making the sources GPL and putting them on Github I soon got a few collaborators from around the globe. All regular non-company specific NMEA 2000 messages are now decoded, most of them completely. CANboat is unique in that it also decodes. It is able to direct quite a number of company specific messages, but work on this is particularly slow as it requires a software developer with both access to a device producing them, a (perceived) need to use them and the will to put in hard hours doing the reverse engineering. This involves looking at hex dumps and fiddling until it makes sense.

Why did you choose the GNU GPL version 3 (or later) as the license for CANboat?

I personally think the RFC method of publishing standards is a better one than the ISO/IEC style of charged access. I also don't like how the NMEA uses copyright law to prevents people with access to the standard to talk about content within the standard. Even the IEC doesn't do this. When I decided to make my work free software, I felt that I wanted to help non-professionals to gain access, but I also wanted to respect the NMEA as much as possible. I'm not trying to subvert their business model here, just offering an alternative for free software development. What I didn't want to see happening is that business would just use my work as a means to evade paying the NMEA without them contributing back to the community. This is why I made a deliberate choice for the GPL with its strong copyleft clause, which ensures this.


I think you allone as maintainer have to decide betwhen a full official integration and a add on or plugin what is legal and keep openplotter away from the most problems. 
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Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Sailoog - 2017-10-09, 06:17 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by jim321 - 2017-10-09, 06:42 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Sailoog - 2017-10-09, 06:59 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by abarrow - 2017-10-09, 07:48 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Luckbert - 2017-10-09, 09:02 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by bmayer - 2017-10-10, 11:31 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-10-10, 02:35 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by jim321 - 2017-10-09, 09:21 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Sailoog - 2017-10-10, 09:23 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-10-10, 10:34 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Sailoog - 2017-10-10, 04:11 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by topodom - 2017-10-10, 04:28 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-10-10, 06:04 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Pytheas - 2017-10-10, 08:37 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-10-11, 11:24 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by shark24 - 2017-10-11, 01:01 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by ElbeTaxi - 2017-10-12, 09:14 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-10-12, 02:43 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Sailoog - 2017-10-12, 05:59 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-10-12, 08:23 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by shark24 - 2017-10-12, 08:45 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by ElbeTaxi - 2017-10-12, 09:37 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-10-13, 08:37 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Sailoog - 2017-10-13, 09:53 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-10-13, 12:34 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Saqqara - 2017-10-14, 05:59 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-10-14, 09:53 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Sailoog - 2017-10-14, 05:24 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Didier B - 2017-10-16, 03:05 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-10-18, 10:26 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Sailoog - 2017-10-18, 10:59 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by NahanniV - 2017-12-24, 02:56 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by PaddyB - 2017-10-18, 11:18 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by jim321 - 2017-10-18, 11:58 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Saqqara - 2017-10-19, 05:00 AM
Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by SkipperEarly - 2017-10-19, 06:43 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by affinite - 2017-10-19, 09:22 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by holgerw - 2017-10-19, 11:00 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by ddelorme - 2017-10-25, 01:51 AM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by Clem - 2017-10-31, 05:36 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by jim321 - 2017-11-01, 01:57 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by tocan - 2017-11-01, 04:08 PM
RE: Integrate qtVlm on OpenPlotter - by jim321 - 2018-04-11, 11:37 AM

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