Introducing OpenPlotter hats!!!

[tocan]

I did now decide for next year not to use the hat, because i did bought me for AIS a used class A transponder  und was allways most important for me to support Openstreetmap and Openseamap project so i decide to log with the official Datalogger there. in general this way i have place for another head.

http://wkla.no-ip.biz/ArduinoWiki/doku.p...uino:oseam
http://www.cns.se/Products/AIS_Mobile_Transponders

When the new version of openplotter will come? I like during winter to setup the final system at home. For Inland still OpenCPN is only parial usefull because of not existing use of mtiles and tiles.

The hat looks great I like the idea of putting the gps on the hat. My experience with temp sensors attached to a hat is not a good idea generally as the RPI gives off heat causing incarcerate readings.
I agree with Tocan I support Openseamap /openstreetmap. But with no tiles available for my area or i have not found a way to do this. My current setup is a UPS pico with your proto board on top. and the following lines broken out 3.3v,ground, SDA,SCL,1Wire and the serial lines. this goes to another box via Cat6 cable with the i2c sensors. I made a 1w bus on this and Terminals for the serial port.
I am hoping to find RJ45 jacks i can connect the 2 boxes with. I have issues with UPS PICO as they have been very unreliable getting updates out to fix bugs due to proprietary dev software.
I do not use AIS as no one has this on lake Winnipeg. I have non nmea Depth sounder to be replaced suggestions welcome. My second depth sounder is a old wrench tied to 33m tape measure. very high teck accurate to 1 cm.
I stopped using node red on RPI as it has issues so I run it on the laptop to display Sensor data and SignalK Instrument panel.
I use 2 Epsolar tracer A charge controllers via modbus/USB and some python code to send data to SignalK.
Everything is vary stable now. i had a few bad unrelated updates that were causing problems but thanks to some help all is good.
I would like to add RFTAG sensor i could attach to my PDF so if i fall off my boat would stop or alarm if i fall off.

You are my hero guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You help me to push from my EP-Solar EPever to come to Signal K and i help you with yours Sonar.

Buy a compatible Sounder that is NMEA0183 compatible. And then because you love OSM join the http://depth.openseamap.org/

Try to translate the german parts because this section is more active than the english to yours language.
http://wiki.openseamap.org/wiki/Depth_Data

For you best thing is to use the official sponsored Hardware logger that includes also the neccessary Sensors and push the data to signal k
The hardware logger is in an enclosed case and you do not need anymore the gyro etc...
Price is just 30 $ or 50 if you wish to use Seatalk... 

I did decide for this combination and so i do not need a hat for the moment. When you did get some data you can take out the seperate SD cards and upload them to OSM. you can also when you are in the harbour or port log the data with waves and differences so all time you get the data exact and with the different seasonal changes later.

I also did drop the node red as long there exist no step by step solution for open plotter inside documentation. Scott bender did write me recently that he does not plan to put his Wilhelm SK to Android because he does not see any need for this. 

So i decide for AF-Track intermediate. As far as i see I use from Openplotter mainly Signal K and Canboat. The rest 2 Special Mobiles push together with Android apps. They are reasonable waterresistant and have a very good brigdness also in sun and i can push the 2 6,44 inch together to a one big 13 inch screen touchpad. Start to build my own mapserver now.

Nice to see what they to in rusia to help. 

[seandepagnier]

You help me to push from my EP-Solar EPever to come to Signal K and i help you with yours Sonar.

What is that?

Buy a compatible Sounder that is NMEA0183 compatible. And then because you love OSM join the http://depth.openseamap.org/

What compatible sounder is cheap?? Everything I can find with nmea0183 output cost too much.


I am researching the possibilities to build a sounder. It is possible to build a depth sounder using $20 ultrasonic cleaning transducers. The electronics are not too complicated. These transducers only 28-40khz so they would have deep range possible up to 100 meters deep.

Eventually it should be possible to mount two transducers in the boat to also measure waterspeed and temperature.

Has anyone interest in doing this?

[ddelorme]

Sure I will send you my code. It is real rough. You will also need the driver i use. You will have to change the ports and install the pymodbus.
Driver and original work
https://github.com/dmdelorme/epsolar-tracer 
 
look at sktest1.py it needs much improvement Need to sort out enum types and syncing clocks. the sensors on the unit appear to be very accurate. but the unit is very substeputable "<cant spell" to noise ie a loose 1w connection.
Ports could be auto added if i could code better. fails if port is open should check first then retry.
The timers show great promise to wake up and transmit data in a very energy effective manner.
I would like to run a database but fear just adding to much data and Band width to RPI.
I dont need to deal with hardware and software while sailing.
Hey how the hell do you attach a file?
wrong type??
Can you read any data off your epsolar?
I guess i am far less stable and smart as i thought i was.

They have a drop in replacement for my p79 airmar nmea 1083 or 2000. i was trying to find a actisense? for my strange version. 230Khz. they stopped making it:{
Lake Winnipeg is long and narrow and shallow  max depth in the north and south basin is about 60 ft deeper in the narrows.  so i don't need much for depth but fine grained data of the channels and anchorages would be nice.
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I read though all the data before and need to get compatible system setup then reread it.
My hack around for Maps is paper. Then linux laptop running wine and Opencpn with BSBv4 plugin.

The current state of node-red/rpi/openplotter to a lesser extent is sad. I find it too easy and useful in prof of concept to abandon completely. 
I really would like a touch display that i could mount in my cockpit bulkhead. $$$ I have looked at different options but it is hard to Spend $$ on a $10000 boat.  Every dollar i spend i have to work and I dont want to work i want to sail:}  am sure Sean has a algorithm for this

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You help me to push from my EP-Solar EPever to come to Signal K and i help you with yours Sonar.

What is that?

Buy a compatible Sounder that is NMEA0183 compatible. And then because you love OSM join the http://depth.openseamap.org/

What compatible sounder is cheap??  Everything I can find with nmea0183 output cost too much.


I am researching the possibilities to build a sounder.  It is possible to build a depth sounder using $20 ultrasonic cleaning transducers.   The electronics are not too complicated.  These transducers only 28-40khz so they would have deep range possible up to 100 meters deep.

Eventually it should be possible to mount two transducers in the boat to also measure waterspeed and temperature.

Has anyone interest in doing this?

Sean sounds awesome . I dont care about Deep data but the shallow stuff. Embarrassing hitting low spot twice or more I would like to map to less then 10 meters +- .5. Where i sail it is inland but due to the size and wind on the lake the elevation can change 1.5 meters in a short period of time.

[tocan]

You help me to push from my EP-Solar EPever to come to Signal K and i help you with yours Sonar.

What is that?

Buy a compatible Sounder that is NMEA0183 compatible. And then because you love OSM join the http://depth.openseamap.org/

What compatible sounder is cheap??  Everything I can find with nmea0183 output cost too much.


I am researching the possibilities to build a sounder.  It is possible to build a depth sounder using $20 ultrasonic cleaning transducers.   The electronics are not too complicated.  These transducers only 28-40khz so they would have deep range possible up to 100 meters deep.

Eventually it should be possible to mount two transducers in the boat to also measure waterspeed and temperature.

Has anyone interest in doing this?

I bought airmar used. 50 Euros. Did not published yet.

EP-Solar EPever are MPPT tracer. Are the same. Good quality and not expensive. 
Not official in the Openplotter project.

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When the new version of openplotter will come? I like during winter to setup the final system at home. For Inland still OpenCPN is only parial usefull because of not existing use of mtiles and tiles.

mtiles?  Do you mean mbtiles?

I have scripts that can easily convert these into format opencpn can use.  I already have complete world charts in this way.

As for inland waterways (europe I am assuming)  These charts are available in kap format already from the inbuilt chart downloader.   I also have many charts, including most areas in europe, in raster format, as well as vector charts in s57 format.    I don't think you can find better charts in mbtiles which tiles are you using?

mbtiles are designed for imagery.   They have specific scale factors and projections only, and therefore are not ideally suited for nautical charts.   Despite this, they can be used, and provide much better random access than supported formats due to their tiled nature.  They are widely available from tile servers, but again, they can easily be converted to kap format without losing data, so can at least be used.

Did not saw this reply, sorry i suggest i write you a PM or mail you. So this thread does not go out of order with other discussion. Inland All Europe correct!!! And hopefully with all the petrol stations for normal cars. Will explain why... But this is offtopic.

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Sure I will send you my code. It is real rough. You will also need the driver i use. You will have to change the ports and install the pymodbus.
Driver and original work
https://github.com/dmdelorme/epsolar-tracer 
 
look at sktest1.py it needs much improvement Need to sort out enum types and syncing clocks. the sensors on the unit appear to be very accurate. but the unit is very substeputable "<cant spell" to noise ie a loose 1w connection.
Ports could be auto added if i could code better. fails if port is open should check first then retry.
The timers show great promise to wake up and transmit data in a very energy effective manner.
I would like to run a database but fear just adding to much data and Band width to RPI.
I dont need to deal with hardware and software while sailing.
Hey how the hell do you attach a file?
wrong type??
Can you read any data off your epsolar?
I guess i am far less stable and smart as i thought i was.

They have a drop in replacement for my p79 airmar nmea 1083 or 2000. i was trying to find a actisense? for my strange version. 230Khz. they stopped making it:{
Lake Winnipeg is long and narrow and shallow  max depth in the north and south basin is about 60 ft deeper in the narrows.  so i don't need much for depth but fine grained data of the channels and anchorages would be nice.
. 
I read though all the data before and need to get compatible system setup then reread it.
My hack around for Maps is paper. Then linux laptop running wine and Opencpn with BSBv4 plugin.

The current state of node-red/rpi/openplotter to a lesser extent is sad. I find it too easy and useful in prof of concept to abandon completely. 
I really would like a touch display that i could mount in my cockpit bulkhead. $$$ I have looked at different options but it is hard to Spend $$ on a $10000 boat.  Every dollar i spend i have to work and I dont want to work i want to sail:}  am sure Sean has a algorithm for this

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You help me to push from my EP-Solar EPever to come to Signal K and i help you with yours Sonar.

What is that?

Buy a compatible Sounder that is NMEA0183 compatible. And then because you love OSM join the http://depth.openseamap.org/

What compatible sounder is cheap??  Everything I can find with nmea0183 output cost too much.


I am researching the possibilities to build a sounder.  It is possible to build a depth sounder using $20 ultrasonic cleaning transducers.   The electronics are not too complicated.  These transducers only 28-40khz so they would have deep range possible up to 100 meters deep.

Eventually it should be possible to mount two transducers in the boat to also measure waterspeed and temperature.

Has anyone interest in doing this?

Sean sounds awesome . I dont care about Deep data but the shallow stuff. Embarrassing hitting low spot twice or more I would like to map to less then 10 meters +- .5. Where i sail it is inland but due to the size and wind on the lake the elevation can change 1.5 meters in a short period of time.

My boat price was 2000 $ :-) but no sails anymore and condition is that i did agree to my husband that the total cost do not grow more than 300$ per month including absolute all. Otherwize no agreement. I am Romanian and we are not rich there. So it must also integrate. 

Target is to go romania and everyone is allowed use it for free and sponsor the fisherman and soft tourismn there. If noone give something ok. If someone have for 14 days or more just 10 $ also ok. Max limit is fixed. We got a class A transponder now and this goes close to the monthly limit.

Rest PM please http://donau-grundel-schiff.de/2017/07/2...video.html choose english and follow the links. We do also got a running version with influxdb and grafana. I think is better to write PM and anounce here than the final suggestion for the documention. Solar is not integrate here in openplotter. We only could not put it to Signal K.... Limited skills. We publish in german and romanian so sorry for the english. And translations make the server slow.

[ddelorme]

I am in Canada So the Gov issues digital charts in BSBV4.

[pcmm]

Very slick looking board! How much effort would it be to change the SMA connector for a more normal SO239 connection?

[Littlechay]

As PCMM said above I have questions about the choice of RF connectors too.

Why use an SMA connector for the AIS antenna when a SO239 to take a PL259 would be more normal?

Ditto the BNC for a GPS antenna. BNC is not normally used for GPS frequencies (although theoretically it can be). A SMA would be more commonly used for a GPS antenna.

To me the connectors are the wrong way around. If BNC must be used put it on the AIS antenna connection as BNC/PL259 adapters are common and cheap but SMA/PL259 adapters are more specialised and more expensive.

[abarrow]

Wouldn't the SO329 take up too much space and require more physical structure to hold securely? Most commercial AIS systems use a BNC connector anyway. This is what the provider of the dAISy Hat does, he provides an SMA female onboard and offers a few different pigtails.

What about just providing options for pigtails to provide a conversion from SMA to SO239, PL259 or a BNC connector?

[pcmm]

Wouldn't the SO329 take up too much space and require more physical structure to hold securely? Most commercial AIS systems use a BNC connector anyway. This is what the provider of the dAISy Hat does, he provides an SMA female onboard and offers a few different pigtails.

What about just providing options for pigtails to provide a conversion from SMA to SO239, PL259 or a BNC connector?

Pigtails are OK.  aside from the dAISy I haven't seen other AIS units with BNC connectors!  not sure why you'd use a BNC anyway as the antenna system for AIS is VHF and UHF (SO239) connectors are universally used.

[abarrow]

Here's an example, https://www.milltechmarine.com/Comar-SLR...p_256.html, but I've seen just as many with SO-239s. For me, it's better to have the same connector as your VHF transceiver because it means that if I have a separate AIS antenna I might be able to use it as a backup VHF antenna.